Public session - Participants: Karissa Wieskamp, Blaire Elysia, Emmalyne Mathon, Rashma Lalita Brands, & one other - Duration 30min
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A: Beyond and before all distractions, hello. How are you?
Q: Excited.
A: We too.
Q: There is an expected level of apprehension and doubt.
This is understood that there be no words that will soothe what you have chosen to carry as yours.
And this is the same for any belief or concept on any topic throughout your lives no experience or word will save you from the burden of your own decisions.
So, our friendly advice (smile) would be to decide... (laughs) differently.
And there is not one in the room who does not know this.
There is no throat lozenge that can soothe.
Nothing that can be taken from outside to relieve an internal burning.
But perhaps one can be gentle and slowly come to soothe oneself and, yes, use experience to cross-reference what one is doing internally... but never imagine that it was the experience or words that changed something for you.
It was only ever your choice to change.
Going forward, you may flip the equation to the more efficient version of it and remove the need for permission slips all together.
This too would be a decision.
We are honored by your presence.
We are entertained by the much discussion of the human design system that the vessel has been participating in and would invite you to questioning.¹
Q: What is your perspective on the Human Design system by Ra Uru Hu?
A: We do not have perspective in the way you are implying.
This returns to what we were speaking of earlier, how all things may be used for benefit.
All appearances have milk that can be drawn from them and this milk can nourish and so this system that you speak of is equivalent to any other system that one could draw nourishment from.
One could, similarly, arrive at…..the progressions that a system could offer by feeling into the source beyond all systems.
Q: Is it true that if you're channeling, you're connecting to a parallel version of yourself?
A: We do not channel². We believe you meant if a vessel is channeling.
All beings are parallel versions of one being.
When channeling, you are connected to your parallel version.
The specificity of a parallel version with which one can connect, will depend on the decisions and free will of the channel themself.
And, this in turn means that with enough awareness of one’s free will and preference.
All parallel versions are available...including those which, from a non neutral perspective one has put on a pedestal.
You can as easily tap into the consciousness of MacGyver as Jesus……..
We startled the vessel by mentioning MacGyver.³
You all seem very serious to us.
Q: (laughs) Do you encourage playfulness?
A: We do. And do not discourage seriousness.
Q: If you say we, how many are you, are you, like, looking at us? How is this?
A: When we say we, you are included.
There are no many in the one.
And yet, communication restricts, in some way, our freedom to express the truth as truth.
From where we are looking, we know the simultaneous realities of our existence and this moment being possible only because of your observation of it.
And so the ‘we’, is you.
However, if one believes them-self to be an individual, they project individuality onto what they see.
We make concessions for this difference in understanding.
Q: Does the energy healing that the vessel has recently learned have any connection to you or her ability to channel? Is there a specific direction that should be taken in regards to this? Or any particular instructions that could benefit in regards to these topics.
A: If there’s a choice to use that as a….permission to allow further exploration of the theme, then yes.
If one remembers that all is a choice, then no.
In the case of the vessel, it has been useful to experiment with what she would call 'powers'.
In order to build confidence to arrive at where she, and all of you, already are.
This is unnecessary and yet common.
And yet perfectly orchestrated by this non-separated portion of the All-That-Is.
……………………...One only needs to decide what they want.
Though, there is a tendency to claim one does not know what they want.
This is clear because when you try to know what you want, you have not decided what you want, because you believe there is something to know about a decision……...We would like you to relax.
(group joins in deep breathe)
A: Better, yes?
Q: Yes.
A: This time is blessed, for so many for so many voices of the one voice are spinning off in fractals and they’re able to reach into space that they could not reach earlier.
Listening carefully enough, it is clear it is one voice and the message is less important than the understanding of the one voice.
And beyond the one voice, the one silence.
It is in that silence that the solution for all of your perceived problems finds its resolution.
For in that silence, there is no air for your problems to breathe.
There is no land for your problems to stand on.
There is only the end-of-standing... of the silence.
Q: Can you talk about how what actually happens when beings seem to be activating each other, like soul family getting together and there seems to be activation going on or something like that?
V: Yes...
The question returns to answers on the energy healing and any other permission slip that one could create.
The beings that have these experiences choose to have these experiences.
Because they believe without these experiences they would not arrive where they want to be on their soul journey.
So the experience presents itself for the growth of the being.
This is not to say the growth does not happen.
It is the allow that happens through the belief system of the being that furthers their understanding.
They are only activated by their soul family, because they are choosing to be activated by their soul family.
There is so many on your planet who do not get activated by their soul family.
ALL of the systems and tools and concepts are beautiful as they play their diverse roles in the experience of creation and they are all necessary, but it is all the same thing.
We are not wanting to remove, by proposing a truth outside of yourselves, any form of appreciation or enjoyment of any of these systems that you currently use for your expansion.
We are only wanting to remind you, that it is YOU who creates your expansion.
…..We would not advise, and yet not find any fault in any system that provokes feelings that flow in the opposite direction of where you want to be going.
And we would neither condemn these systems, as in your movement...in your direction opposite to what you are wanting, you are being guided to what you wanting.
For us, all has equal value.
We are partial to the interaction between beings as one of the lessons many of you desire to learn and encapsulate at this time.
And in bumping into one another you have the opportunity to tweak your understanding of these concepts in a way that you would not if you were alone and you seem to be having fun doing it.
Q: Can we call you Vagrein or can you correct me on the name?⁴
A: You may call us whatever you like.
There are no corrections, there are no errors.
We are pleased that your vessel figured out our ruse and she learned the lesson we have proposed to her in this game.
As all are included, our name would be far too long to pronounce⁵, to be sure to include everyone and if, for convenience sake, that would be pleasing... we have no objections to your choices.
Q: Would it be appropriate to refer to you as All-that-is.
A: It would be appropriate to refer to all that is as All that is.⁶
………...There is nothing to fear, ever.
And you are loved in your fear.
If there are any questions, we will take one.
If not, we will release the vessel.
Q: I have begun to speak what I call light language.
Sometimes I doubt that there’s any meaning.
What purpose does it have for me (Karissa) and for other beings around me?
A: We are glad you asked this question because we felt that we would like to repeat the same answer again.⁷
If you doubt it has meaning, it has no meaning.
If you do not doubt it has no meaning, magically (laughs) it has meaning.
And the only relevance for you, would be the one you would choose for it to have.
And you can decide to not doubt that, the relevance.
If you were, tomorrow, to believe that your light language could cure cancer in the entire planet and believe it deep enough, there would be no tumors left.
And that would be your relevance.
Q: Thank you.
A: Thank you
……..With the deliverance of love and the infinite light of all eternity we say “Herro!”⁷
(Audience laughs)
Q:Oh...my..god. Wow.
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Notes from Jess:
¹This was a joke. All week several of us had been talking about 'Human Design' system and how most people need direct invitations to take action and are not internally motivated. The entity was referring to a sensed energy of apprehension in the room and unwillingness to ask a question.
²A precise response to the use of the word 'you' in the question.
³I was startled as the entity was searching my references for a figure to place in this analogy that had quite neutral connotations juxtaposed with Jesus. The fact that it chose this particular fictional 1980's tv character made me uncomfortable for 2 reasons:
As a child of around 7 years old, on holiday with my family, I saw Richard Dean Anderson, the actor who played MacGuyiver sitting at the next table. I was the youngest of a large group of adults and other children who encouraged me to go up to him for his autograph. When I finally mustered the courage I asked "Excuse me, are you MacGuyiver?"
And his reply, loud enough for all to hear was "Of course I'm not MacGuyiver, I'm Richard Dean Anderson" I turned, completely mortified, innocent and believing I had made a grave error, back to my table before he stopped me to explain his 'joke'.
The fact that the entity chose this character therefore held both personal significance and triggered my remaining insecurities that the channeling is simply my subconscious at work because of the personal nature of the choice.
⁴During the transmission of the night before I was given a name but was not able to speak it outlond so during the day I Googled it and came to a surprising discovery on a baby names site. The name was Vagrein and on the page was written in quotes "Seeking ends when Sharing Begins". I do not know if this is the meaning of the name as it has no gender or origin specified, but the message on a personal and collective level was clear. This is perhaps what the entity intended whether or not it identifies with this name in particular.
⁵As this was being spoken I had a download of all the names and potential infinite names for all things in all universes of space time as if they were written in english characters in one long, infinitely still and infinitely fast line/word.
⁶The energy behind this reply was extremely loving and stern. It was followed by a long silence as that energy was absorbed and understood by those in the room.
⁷This was bordering on playful sarcasm
⁸This salutation referenced an earlier conversation between Jess, Elysia and Karissa where they were discussing how people in Holland dont seem to understand North American social quirks such as deliberately pronouncing the word 'Hello' with a funny accent and intonation. The entity replicated one such greeting that Elysia had been using recently.
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Channeled by JP Herman
Transcribed by Karissa Wieskamp
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